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Showing posts with label Stand your ground. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Stand your ground. Show all posts
Friday, November 08, 2013
Fla. refuses to repeal 'stand your ground."
The Fla. legislature has refused to repeal its stand your ground self-defense law. Although it played no part in the George Zimmerman case, the left went apoplectic against this law. The right to use lawful arms for lawful self-defense is the essence of the Second Amendment and a natural law right.
Tuesday, July 30, 2013
Further Comments on the Zimmerman case
FURTHER OBSERVATIONS ON THE GEO. ZIMMERMAN CASE
Most of the media (ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, Huffington Post, etc.)
adopted a left-wing politically correct propaganda approach to the case. Ethics
seemed to go out the window:
Wikipedia noted:
“Deceptive audio editing
by NBC
Between March 19 and 27, 2012, the NBC Nightly News, NBC's Today show, and NBC's network-owned Miami affiliate WTVJ NBC6[348] ran segments which misleadingly merged parts of Zimmerman's call. On one version of the recording played by NBC, Zimmerman was heard saying, "This guy looks like he's up to no good or he's on drugs or something... He's got his hand in his waistband, and he's a black male."[349] In another what was played was, "This guy looks like he's up to no good. He looks black." In the original 9-1-1 recording, Zimmerman said: "This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about." The 9-1-1 operator then asked: "OK, and this guy, is he black, white or Hispanic?", and Zimmerman answered, "He looks black."[282] The phrase, "He's got his hand in his waistband, and he's a black male" came several exchanges after that point in the conversation.[350][351]
Erik Wemple of the Washington Post wrote that NBC's alterations "would more readily paint Zimmerman as a racial profiler. In reality... Zimmerman simply answered a question... Nothing prejudicial at all in responding to such an inquiry... To portray that exchange in a way that wrongs Zimmerman is high editorial malpractice..."[282]
NBC issued an apology for "an error made in the production process that we deeply regret,"[352] but never apologized on the air.[353] The network said that the Today show and Miami edits took place in two separate incidents involving different people. A Miami-based NBC News producer lost her job, WTVJ reporter Jeff Burnside was fired,[354] and two other employees were disciplined.[355][356] Lilia Luciano, who was the reporter on broadcasts containing both edited versions of the audio,[349][357] was also fired, and her aired reports on the Trayvon Martin story, along with the misleading audio, were removed from the Today website.[358][359]
On December 6, 2012, Zimmerman filed a defamation lawsuit against NBC alleging that they intentionally edited the phone call so that Zimmerman would sound racist. The lawsuit said, "NBC saw the death of Trayvon Martin not as a tragedy but as an opportunity to increase ratings, and so set about to create the myth that George Zimmerman was a racist and predatory villain."[360][361] A NBC spokeswoman said the network strongly disagreed with the accusations that Zimmerman made in the complaint, stating; "There was no intent to portray Mr. Zimmerman unfairly and we intend to vigorously defend our position in court."[362]
In an interview after the trial verdict, Fox News legal analyst Lis Wiehl predicted NBC would lose millions settling a defamation lawsuit.[363]
Surveillance video mistake
Image enhancement of a single frame of the police
surveillance video (left) by The
Daily Caller (middle) and by Forensic Protection,
Inc. working with ABC News (right) shows two welts or abrasions. ABC
originally said the video showed no blood or bruises.[364]
ABC News obtained a surveillance video of Zimmerman walking unassisted into the Sanford police station after the shooting. An officer is seen pausing to look at the back of Zimmerman's head, but ABC originally said that no abrasions or blood can be seen in the video.[364] The Daily Caller disputed this claim, and posted a still from the ABC video which showed an injury on the back of Zimmerman's head.[365] ABC later reported that it had "re-digitized" the video, and said that this version showed "what appear to be a pair of gashes or welts on George Zimmerman's head," but the story's main focus was on a doctor who claimed it was unlikely that Zimmerman's nose had been broken.[366][367]
Misleading reporting
after the verdict
In his July 26, 2013 column, Slate journalist William Saletan accused several major news organizations of editing interviews with "Juror B29" to make it appear that she maintained Zimmerman had gotten away with murder when she had not actually done so.[368\\”
(From Wikipedia artice linked below)
The President’s comments only added fuel to the fire. I suspect he was still angry about new
federal gun control going down the tubes and he wanted to keep the issue alive.
This whole thing could have gotten very violent and ugly is a protest
demonstration had gotten out of hand and a white cop killed a black
demonstrator. It could be Rodney King
Riots II. Hopefully, things have quieted
down. The angry pundits on the Right
only made it worse. Of course, we all
know that this case was really about race, gun control, self-defense and concealed
carry. If both Zimmerman and Martin had
been of the same race, this case would have been ignored. The problem of violence against blacks is
primarily a black-on-black problem which is chronically ignored.
Stand Your Ground
Further, the media and many politicians tried to use the
case as an argument to repeal “stand our ground laws. This is pure hogwash. As Wikipedia noted “The
"stand your ground law" was not used by the Zimmerman defense team
during the trial, although it was considered at an earlier time. Some sources
have pointed out that “Stand Your Ground” was mentioned in the Jury
Instructions preceding the trial,[301]
however, this is part of the required Jury Instructions in all Florida murder
trials in which the defendant claims “Justifiable Use of Deadly Force” as part
of their defense”
Wintesses testified that Martin was on top of Zimmerman
before Zimmerman fired. Stand your ground is irrelevant in this circumstance.
More Objective Views
For a more objective look at the Zimmerman case, including
prosecutorial misconduct google/search “Dershowitz Zimmerman.” Alan Dershowitz is a liberal defense
attorney, author and law professor. For
a more balanced look at the case, media treatment, etc. see the article in
Wikipedia (quoted above, "Shooting of Trayvon Martin")
It Ain’t Over till it’s Over!
Of course, this show
is not over. The U.S. Department of
Justice is reviewing the case to see if federal criminal charges should be
filed against Zimmerman. Given the
President’s comments and the wail from the Left, there will be no objective,
ethical decision-making in Holder’s DOJ.
Look for an indictment even though the facts do not seem to warrant
it. It will be interesting to see what
statute DOJ uses. Further, a civil suit
against Zimmerman is anticipated. The
burden there against Zimmerman will only be “a preponderance of the evidence.” The criminal case required a higher standard “proof
beyond a reasonable doubt.” Jury selection
will be crucial in both these cases. RKR
II could still happen.
Presumption of Guilt and Demonization.
Much of the discussion of the Zimmerman case is based on the
assumption that he is guilty (e.g. “Justice for Trayvon Martin”). I guess all these folks are in a better position
to judge his guilt than the jury that found him not guilty. Talk about demonization. I think Geo. took over the #1 spot on the
Left’s demon list, temporarily replacing the NRA.
Conclusion:
This whole incident is a sad example of the American media
at its left-wing politically correct worst.
In this kind of environment, a fair trial is difficult to get. This is a sad example of American media and
politicians at their worst. Civil liberties are in danger in this kind of
hysteria. (I don’t follow Fox, but I suspect their coverage was biased in the
other direction).
Keep your fingers crossed that we don’t get mass violence before
this is all over.
Saturday, March 24, 2012
The Geo. Zimmerman shooting of Trayvon Martin: PART II
The George Zimmerman killing of Trayvon Martin has become a national controversy. (See the link for more info and updates) There are so many allegations, interpretations and spins that it is hard to figure out what exactly happened, what were the intentions of the persons involved, and what part of Florida law applies? I discussed Zimmerman’s personal self-defense by deadly force issue in a prior post.
However, UCLA law Prof. Adam Winkler and others see this as a case of deadly force to prevent a burglary. This may be what happened, although Zimmerman seems to be claiming personal self-defense. If Zimmerman was trying to prevent a burglary, it is a different issue and the rules are markedly different that the personal self-defense case discussed previously. As pointed out by Prof. Winkler and others, Florida law authorizes the use of deadly force when a person reasonably believes such force is necessary to prevent the commission of a forcible felony. (Note that “reasonable” modifies all of the requirements of the statute, necessity of deadly force for prevention and belief that a burglary was in progress, etc.) Burglary of a home is deemed a forcible felony for purposes of this law. Some of the facts suggest that Zimmerman was on the watch for burglars after a slew of burglaries in his neighborhood. If Zimmerman reasonably believed that Martin was about to commit a burglary (even of another person’s home) he would be justified in using deadly force if he reasonably believed the deadly force was necessary to prevent commission of the burglary. (Note that the situation might be different if Zimmerman was inside the home, but that clearly was not the case.) Again, Zimmerman would not have the defense if his belief was not “reasonable” or if the shooting was not reasonably necessary” to prevent the burglary. IF Martin was fleeing from Zimmerman, as appears to be the case from the 911 recording, the killing was not necessary to prevent the burglary. Even assuming Zimmerman’s belief that Martin was in the process of committing a burglary was reasonable, once Martin fled, the burglary had been prevented. In a pure burglary-prevention situation, Zimmerman had no right to pursue and use deadly force during the pursuit because the flight prevented the burglary. The shooting was not necessary to prevent the burglary. Zimmerman has no defense to the killing. Zimmerman doesn’t lose the defense because the police dispatcher told him not to pursue, he loses it because the burglary had already been prevented and the force was not necessary to prevent it. It seems likely, at this point, that Zimmerman has no valid prevention-of burglary defense to the killing. IF Zimmerman was pursuing when he shot Martin, the stand your ground law is inapplicable and totally irrelevant. This is also the position of the legislator who authored the law.
As stated in the prior post, if Zimmerman argues personal self-defense, the matters discussed in the prior post will apply. Zimmerman will not get personal self-defense IF he was the aggressor. Although Zimmerman is entitled to a presumption of innocence, the material released so far is very incriminating. Most expect that Zimmerman will be indicted shortly. Stay tuned.
One final note, as I see it, the main problem with the Florida law is NOT the stand your ground provision (which is irrelevant to this case), the main problem is allowing deadly force for preventing a burglary when the force is not being used by an occupant of the home or there is no reasonable belief that the burglar will use deadly force inside the home. I have no problem with using deadly force, if necessary in these two circumstances.
However, UCLA law Prof. Adam Winkler and others see this as a case of deadly force to prevent a burglary. This may be what happened, although Zimmerman seems to be claiming personal self-defense. If Zimmerman was trying to prevent a burglary, it is a different issue and the rules are markedly different that the personal self-defense case discussed previously. As pointed out by Prof. Winkler and others, Florida law authorizes the use of deadly force when a person reasonably believes such force is necessary to prevent the commission of a forcible felony. (Note that “reasonable” modifies all of the requirements of the statute, necessity of deadly force for prevention and belief that a burglary was in progress, etc.) Burglary of a home is deemed a forcible felony for purposes of this law. Some of the facts suggest that Zimmerman was on the watch for burglars after a slew of burglaries in his neighborhood. If Zimmerman reasonably believed that Martin was about to commit a burglary (even of another person’s home) he would be justified in using deadly force if he reasonably believed the deadly force was necessary to prevent commission of the burglary. (Note that the situation might be different if Zimmerman was inside the home, but that clearly was not the case.) Again, Zimmerman would not have the defense if his belief was not “reasonable” or if the shooting was not reasonably necessary” to prevent the burglary. IF Martin was fleeing from Zimmerman, as appears to be the case from the 911 recording, the killing was not necessary to prevent the burglary. Even assuming Zimmerman’s belief that Martin was in the process of committing a burglary was reasonable, once Martin fled, the burglary had been prevented. In a pure burglary-prevention situation, Zimmerman had no right to pursue and use deadly force during the pursuit because the flight prevented the burglary. The shooting was not necessary to prevent the burglary. Zimmerman has no defense to the killing. Zimmerman doesn’t lose the defense because the police dispatcher told him not to pursue, he loses it because the burglary had already been prevented and the force was not necessary to prevent it. It seems likely, at this point, that Zimmerman has no valid prevention-of burglary defense to the killing. IF Zimmerman was pursuing when he shot Martin, the stand your ground law is inapplicable and totally irrelevant. This is also the position of the legislator who authored the law.
As stated in the prior post, if Zimmerman argues personal self-defense, the matters discussed in the prior post will apply. Zimmerman will not get personal self-defense IF he was the aggressor. Although Zimmerman is entitled to a presumption of innocence, the material released so far is very incriminating. Most expect that Zimmerman will be indicted shortly. Stay tuned.
One final note, as I see it, the main problem with the Florida law is NOT the stand your ground provision (which is irrelevant to this case), the main problem is allowing deadly force for preventing a burglary when the force is not being used by an occupant of the home or there is no reasonable belief that the burglar will use deadly force inside the home. I have no problem with using deadly force, if necessary in these two circumstances.
Friday, March 23, 2012
The Geo. Zimmerman Shooting--media miss the point!
The recent controversial killing in Florida by George Zimmerman has brought out lots of sloppy thinking and propagandizing. The media and propagandists will exploit the public's lack of understanding of the law of self-defense. As I understand the facts, the stand your ground law is irrelevant to the killing. The law changed only one part of Florida's self-defense law. It no longer required that threatened persons (not in their own home) retreat before using deadly defensive force to meet offensive deadly force. The new law does not require the threatened person to respond to deadly force with deadly force. They still have the option to retreat if they so desire, use non-deadly force or other tactics if they so desire. Reports suggest Zimmerman, armed with a handgun, chased the victim. He then became the aggressor and is not protected by the stand your ground law or the usual rules for self-defense. Apparently the police did not arrest him because it was not until later, when they examined the 911 tape, that it appeared he had chased the young man. The case will be submitted to a grand jury. The Brady Center and other gun control and anti-self-defense forces will claim that the stand your ground law encouraged Zimmerman. It didn't! It is not a shoot first-ask questions later law. It does not change the usual rules that forbid using deadly force against those who are not threatening the defender with deadly force. It does not allow an aggressor to use the defense. Further, most citizens, and most criminals, don't know much, if anything about the law of self-defense.
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